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Kelly Osbourne’s Transphobic Rant: Humiliated by Chicks With Dicks and Trannys

Recently the daughter of Ozzy Osbourne, Kelly Osbourne, opened up about her “humiliation”:

“Having to tell them (my parents) my fiance had cheated on me with a tranny who sold his/her story to the press (was the most uncomfortable moment). It was so humiliating. Everyone kept telling me that Luke was cheating on me, but I never believed them. It’s hard enough to get your head around someone cheating on you, but when someone is a chick with a d**k? Up until then, I’d always thought that the worst way to get cheated on would be with an ugly girl. Don’t you think? Because at least if they cheat on you with a gorgeous girl it makes some kind of sense. But men are different, I guess, they can have emotionless sex.”

While I think it’s horrible that Osbourne was cheated on, her hate filled rant that used some of the most objectifying and dehumanizing words is even worse. She’s implying that the trans woman in question has no value, other than sex. That you’d have to have “emotionless sex” with a trans woman.

Kelly, did you ever stop to think that maybe he cheated on you because of your bigoted and intolerant attitudes? Just a thought. Hate is a pretty ugly thing to be around.

H/t Yahoo News

Update: After a long discussion on Twitter with Osbourne about this, Osbourne did what any good ally does. She apologized, and has sought to educate others. You can read her guest post here.

Marti Abernathey
Marti Abernathey
Marti Abernathey is the founder of the Transadvocate and the previous managing editor. Abernathey has worn many different hats, including that of podcaster, activist, and radiologic technologist. She's been a part of various internet radio ventures such as TSR Live!, The T-Party, and The Radical Trannies, TransFM, and Sodium Pentathol Sunday. As an advocate she's previously been involved with the Indiana Transgender Rights Advocacy Alliance, Rock Indiana Campaign for Equality, and the National Transgender Advocacy Coalition. She's taken vital roles as a grass roots community organizer in The Indianapolis Tax Day Protest (2003), The Indy Pride HRC Protest (2004), Transgender Day of Remembrance (2004), Indiana's Witch Hunt (2005), and the Rally At The Statehouse (the largest ever GLBT protest in Indiana - 3/2005). In 2008 she was a delegate from Indiana to the Democratic National Convention and a member of Barack Obama's LGBT Steering and Policy Committee.
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    Not to make light of Kelly Osbourne’s comments nor the reaction of transgender people’s feelings towards them but, considering Kelly is a woman who was reacting to her fiancee cheating on her, do you really think she is someone who even understood her words were offensive? Reportedly, the model Elle Schneider is “awaiting” gender reassignment surgery. In other words, s/he has not become a woman yet. Certainly, not in the eyes of most straight, as well as gay, people. While i know that, to some women, “chick” is offensive, would it have been less offensive to the community, if Kelly had referred to Elle as a “dude with a dick”?

    • Anonymous

      So you check every person you meet, to assure they are male or female upon genital confirmation? No. You are a man or a woman if society thinks you to be one. A penis makes you no more of  less of a woman than one without breasts.  Would you call a woman who’s had a double mastectomy a man?

    • Anonymous

      “Dude with a dick” would be offensive, but not quite as offensive.
      Because “chick with a dick” is a term that not only removes the person’s
      gender identity, but their humanity. It turns them into something
      exclusively sexual. If you don’t believe me, look for yourself: “chick
      with a dick” – Google Search http://bit.ly/rRMCZm

      • Anonymous

        *sighs* To echo Kate Forbes:

        “What’s a bepenised lady to do?”

        While used by cissexists, the construction itself is about as good at divorcing genitalia from gender as possible.

        I’m also reminded of a Carnac the Magnificent bit that began:

        Thirty-six. Twenty-four. Thirty-six. Nine.

        I think perhaps there is a divide in the community between the operative and the non-operative. I don’t gender my genitalia as in any way male, whether or not they’re rearranged by talented surgeons. I’m a woman who has a penis, and I’d prefer not to have to adopt some obscurantist construction that centres bottom surgery as default.

    • Anonymous

      She was female at week 13 of gestation when her midbrain was formed. Centering genitalia as the only indicator of gender and using pronouns you know she doesn’t use is disrespectful on its face.

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  • Guest

    @  “@transadvocate:twitter  ur article today has broken my heart you took something i said out of context i apologized profusely yet you still wont stop””@transadvocate so what u are basically telling me is you know it was out of context you wrote it anyway to make a statement well that sucks!”
    Yeah I’m pretty sure YOU took what she said and twisted it to your own sad little agenda.  And judging from the comments on here you have insulted more of the transgender community that Kelly has.  

    • Anonymous

      1. There is no context outside of a bedroom where “chick with a dick” is appropriate.

      • Guest

        In the timeline you repeatedly goad her into responding, regardless of how many times she apologizes to you.  The fact still remains you took what she said, whether she was right or wrong, twisted it and printed it and now are standing on it proudly waiving the offended flag.  YOU are just as responsible as she is for the whole debacle but at least she has the decency to apologize and try and make things right within the transgender/gay/lesbian community and is working with GLAAD to educate herself.  

        • Anonymous

          How exactly did I twist it? Please explain.

          • Guest

            By taking what Kelly said, acknowledging to her you knew it was out of context and printing it anyway you twisted it to suit your needs.  That is not journalism and it certainly doesn’t make you a champion for the cause but it does make you deceitful.  

            I have no doubt that if a gay male or transgender celebrity had been cheated on in the same way, was humiliated and upset then used the term “chick with a dick” in an interview YOU would not have harassed them in the same manner you did her.

            So you will continue to be deceitful in your reporting and the world will keep on spinning, as I said Kelly is working with GLAAD to educate herself.  What have you learned from this and what are you doing to better yourself?  Its a safe bet the answer is nothing to both…..

          • Anonymous

            First of all, she’s never stated that she didn’t say it. She said it in a public interview, and there’s NEVER any context that would make saying it okay.

            She’s admitted it’s wrong and is working with GLAAD. She’s committed to educating others. I’m not going to apologize for helping others see trans women as human beings.

            I’ll call anyone that uses that term publicly.

            I’ve learn that there are people that hate me for what I’ve written in the past or rabid fans would excuse anything their favorite celeb does, no matter how bad even though said celeb has owned up to it.

            Because you’ve not given any context where chick with a dick is appropriate, I’m sure you have an agenda. Because you’ve talked I’m circles here but supplied no clear reasoning.

          • Guest

            Unlike you I have no agenda and as for the Osbournes, well I can take them or leave them. I do, however, have a problem with bullies wrapping themselves up in crusade to make their hatefulness OK. When someone apologizes and tries to make amends to continue to persecute them and goad them is ridiculous and spiteful.  
            I never said she didn’t say it and I never said it was acceptable term either so saying I haven’t given an acceptable context for “chick with a dick” is idiotic.How have I talked in circles? I have answered every one of your questions, you are the one without reason, you are the one being hateful to those who have posted comments on here that don’t support you, you are so blinkered its ridiculous. 

          • Anonymous

            You’ve not shown where I “persecuted” her after she apologized because it didn’t happen. The convo was over in my mind when she apologized, but then she came back with this “MissKellyO: omg i just read the last bit you wrote you called me a bigot you know im not a bigot you really have to take that down!” She restarted it. We’re in contact with each other off of  Twitter so she must not have taken it as hard as you have. 

          • Guest

            And yet, unlike most credible journalists/bloggers, you have not added an update to your article to reflect that you have been in contact off of Twitter and that she is working to rectify the situation, yet on Twitter you show that she has been in contact and acknowledge her rectifying actions, why the contradiction?:
            “@Sarah_Mac1987 exactly. Funny thing is that Kelly isn’t mad at me & is making amends, yet sum ppl will justify anything their idol does”I haven’t taken it hard, I just object to your bullying attitude and shoddy journalism/blogging…..

          • Nikki

            you’ll call out anyone who uses that term publicly…how about yourself cause you used n****r publicly a few posts ago, better go contact the naacp.

          • Nikki

            Seriously all jokes aside and using all my years of
            schooling in order to avoid being persecuted on my previously defunct grammar (lol).
            I do not mean to harass or even make a joke of your post because you obviously
            were offended and are entitled to your opinion. Which some may agree with and
            some may not. My point is simply anyone can take something said out of anger,
            innocence, ignorance or whatever and stretch it to make a bigger deal than what
            was originally intended. Not everyone thinks before they speak. Using the term
            n****r could get you into as much trouble as Kelly if the right/wrong person
            read that post or reported it to someone. Your post is just as public as her
            interview. Why not use a term defamatory to white people to make your point as
            Kelly isn’t black, the black man/woman has nothing at all to do with this
            story. Any person could take the use of the “N-word” to make your point to mean
            you harbor some deep seeded hatred for the black community, this is not what I
            am saying, and probably isn’t the case I am simply hoping to make you aware
            that you are sliding a slippery slope when you elect to use other defamatory
            remarks to make your point.

    • Anonymous

      2. She restarted the conversation. Anyone that’s read the timeline knows that.

    • Kat


      Are you from Maryland or Massachusetts?

  • And cispeople, you don’t get to make the call on what is or isn’t offensive to the trans community…  We do.

    When we transpeople tell you certain terms are offensive to us, take notes and just don’t say them.   It’s that fracking simple.

  • With friends like that, who needs enemies?

  • Sadie

    That people even pay attention to this person amazes me , the unnecessary glorification and  meaning given to the words of the infamous is part of the rot of the 21st century .Her implication that the worst case scenario for those that discover they have been cheated on is to find their cheater is trans is inane and trans phobic . 

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  • Shazisraz

    I suggest the author look up the meaning of the word bigot.  Because they have a very, VERY different interpretation of the meaning.  Saying “chick with a dick” to me, sounds like a cool description.  An adjective.  Certainly not homophobic, or bigoted or intolerant or negative in any way.  Its like “Dykes On Bikes”.  If a chick has a dick, well, its saying it as it is.  What sort of PC extended verbose rubbish do you want her to write it as? 
    “A female homosapien with a male genital appendage”?  Is that better now? Jesus fuqking christ!  Its a gal, with a dick. Get with it. Its not a bad thing, its not a good thing.  It is just the way it is!  I hate the Osbornes but there is nothing, not….one…single…..thing, that Kelly said that could in ANY way, even SLIGHTLY be construed as ‘bigoted’, or even homophobic for that matter. 

    Seriously, get a fuqking life!  You CHEAPEN the meaning of the word bigot when you maliciously misuse the term for your own selfish and nefarious agenda.  There are people out there who are suffering from the abuse and taunts of REAL ACTUAL bigots and homophobes, and while you waste time chasing shadows and deliberately looking for things that aren’t there and ascribing a sinister meaning to something so innocuous, you are dropping the ball for our community.  Grow up for christs sake. And apologize to Kelly for maliciously and willfully misrepresnting her and outright lying.  Start doing what you SHOULD be doing; advocating for the transgendered and transexual community instead of looking for a fight over nothing but your ignorance and your own bigotry. You really should be ashamed of yourself.  With trouble-makers like you out to blow your own trumpet and create friction where there is none for your personal benefit , our community is stuffed.

    Sharon (formerly Shane), a proud transgendered male.

    • Anonymous

      You’re obviously a troll, as I don’t know ANY trans woman that refers to herself as a “proud transgendered male”. Not one. Some will refer to themselves as a “transgendered female” or woman, but not a transgendered male.

    • Anonymous

      My advice to you is that if you’re going to troll a community with a fake identity, that you learn a bit about it before you do so. It makes the acting seem much more real.

      • Kat

        I’d be curious to know if Shazisraz’s IP address emanates from either Maryland or Massachusetts.

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  • Mykell Miller

    Um, I think it’s pretty clear that the “emotionless sex” is what she thinks men have with attractive women. The implication being that a man might have sex with an attractive woman just because she’s sexy, while a man would only have sex with an ugly woman if he were in love with her. Since Kelly Osbourne probably thinks trans women are ugly, she probably thinks her fiance is in love with the other woman.

  • Sdfd

    mzmartipants….u an idiot. hate on that.

    • Anonymous

      Amazingly ironic comment coming from someone that can’t form a complete sentence.

    • Kat

      “u an idiot. hate on that”

      Is Rod Smart in the house?

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  • Bocaccio

    she just had a normal reaction that of a person being cheated on. If it would be a girl (with no dick I mean) she would probably said really angry and insulting things, and nobody would have take it out of proportions the way you did.

    Stop being so sensitive, about it.

    • Anonymous

      Right. If it had been a black woman, it would have been ok for her to say “It’s hard enough to get your head around someone cheating on you with someone that’s white, but when someone is a nigger?” because she was upset?

      And she didn’t say it to a friend or a trusted confidant, she said it to a reporter for a magazine.

      • Shazisraz

        Oh for goodness sake, grow up!  There is a world of difference between saying chick with a dick, and being racially or homophobically abusive.  You are just being desperate, immature, and are clutchingg at straws.  You are just making a fool of yourself now.  I have little patience for trouble-making pc pretentious wankers (oh, is that homophobic now? (rolls eyes) ) like yourself.  Luckily your view is not the majority in our community.  You don’t represent or speak for me, and you never will.  People like you do far more harm to our community than good.

        • Anonymous

          Go to TransgenderDOR.org, you’ll see that dehumanization of trans women kills.

        • Anonymous

          Go to TransgenderDOR.org, you’ll see that dehumanization of trans women kills.

      • Nikki

        Even though I realize you are trying to make some point…since i’m black should I be offended that you elected to type out the “N” word as opposed to N****r…maybe that would have made me more comfortable as I could have gladly done without that…. Maybe in your example you should’ve found another way to refer to a black person which would have given me the same impression of negativity as opposed n****r?
        See how easy it is for someone to take something you say without meaning to be offensive to an extreme.

        • Nikki

          ***(correction) as opposed to n****r being typed out right****

  • BOB


    • Anonymous

      THE ONLY THING I HATE IS TYPING IN ALL CAPS. It’s not gossip. Osbourne herself has not denied saying “chick with a dick.” Those were her WORDS.

      • anen

        But she WAS a “chick with a dick” how are u suppose to say it? A girl with a penis? mmm pretty much the same

        • Anonymous

          No, it’s not the same. Google “chick with a dick”, then get back with me. She could have said transsexual, transgender, trans woman, etc.

          • Shazisraz

            Sorry to burst your bubble, but as someone who has been there, YES, it *is* the same.  Simply because she didn’t use YOUR pc terminology, does not mean she is a bigot.  She calls them chicks with dicks (which I reckcon is cool myself and am seriously considering getting the slogan on one of our local GLBT pride floats). You call them transsexual, transgender, or whatever pc crap term you want.  It doesn’t make her wrong.  It doesn’t make you wrong.  You say tomayto I say tomarto.  Her use of the more common touch of terminology does not make her a bigot.  It makes her less pretentious and less of a prima donna self ‘victim’ than yourself and other uptight extremists in the community.  It does not make her wrong.  I myself LOATHE the modern pc wankery terms.  If you want to, go ahead.  But DON’T YOU DARE demonize and trash others who choose to eschew the pc wankery.  We all have our own way of describing ourselves.  Our own identification.  If I want to call myself a chick who had a dick, its MY right, who the fuqk are you to tell me to use your pc wankery bullshit?  Get off your high horse and grow up.  Quite frankly, I hope chicks with dicks/chick who had a dick becomes common venacular, because this pc wankery pretentious bs makes me sick and I think does us more harm than good in the general community.  Get back to BEING REAL.

          • Anonymous

            Modern PC terms…lol. I have to love anyone that spouts that. It’s code itself for “Screw you, I want to be an asshole”. If you’re trying to say she was complementing Elle, then you either need to reread it or have someone explain to you what a slur is.

            She wasn’t explaining what SHE was, but explaining how embarrassed she was that she got kicked to the curb by a trans woman who she felt was beneath her.

          • Kat

            Simply because she didn’t use YOUR pc terminology….

            Get thee to a Rush Limbaughery.

        • Kat

          “But she WAS a “chick with a dick” how are u suppose to say it?”

          Please alert me if you decide to “say” (1) what Jews are in the context of anything to do with money; (2) what African-American men are in the context of sexual assaults on white women; and (3) what gay men are in the context of anything to do with contact with children.  I’ll make arrangements to be on some planet that doesn’t have internet access when you do.

          • Shazisraz

            What a load of rot!  All of the desperate strawmen you just wrote are STEREOTYPES.  Look up the definition of a sterotype.  It is a PERCEPTION.  If a transgender woman has a penis, that is not a ‘stereotype’.  Its a fact.  It cannot be a stereotype by its definition because it is a physical ascertainable fact.  I suggest you keep your internet access and use it to inform yourself because in your desperation to excuse the character assassination of Kelly, you show a childish level of logic, an inability to understand analogy and its equal, and an inability to rationalize on a mature adult level.

          • Kat

            If a transgender woman has a penis, that is not a ‘stereotype’.  Its a fact

            Unless you’ve seen a person’s genitals with your own eyes, its an assumption of a possible factual occurrence – a/k/a/ stereotype a/k/a/ bigoted slur – just like the the factual possibility that someone who is Jewish could be greedy,  just like the the factual possibility that some African-American male could commit an act of sexual assault, and just like the factual possibility that a gay man could molest a child.

            the character assassination of Kelly

            I presume that you’re unaware of the irony of you asserting character assassination regarding someone who is nothing more than a 24/7 ‘reality’ show character?

            Do not pass ‘go’; do not collect $200.

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  • Tsrydermonroe

    kelly is a bigot and judging from her twitter timeline it was obvious that she didnt think she had done anything wrong. she even went so far as to insult the author. regardless, y would she expect ms. abernathy to take it down? as if she never said these bigoted comments at all? what world is she living in? she kept proclaiming that the quotes were “taken out of context” then she became rude with the author when asked to provide the “actual” context of the quotes..all the while shes crying about being treated unfairly and demanding that the article be amended or taken down… shes crazy..

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  • Guest

    So you openly admit on Kelly’s twitter page that you deliberately took what she said and twisted it, this was obviously to suit your own agenda to increase traffic to your page.  You accuse her of being a bigot but you are a hypocrite and a liar.  You are doing you cause a disservice.  She apologized to you and wrote you an e-mail for your page and yet you haven’t amended your rant to reflect this.

    • Anonymous

      I didn’t admit to twisting anything. I didn’t change this page because I still stand by WHAT SHE SAID. HER WORDS.

      • Guest

        “@transadvocate ur article today has broken my heart you took something i said out of context i apologized profusely yet you still wont stop””@transadvocate  so what u are basically telling me is you know it was out of context you wrote it anyway to make a statement well that sucks!”Yeah I’m pretty sure YOU took what she said and twisted it to your own sad little agenda.  And judging from the comments on here you have insulted more of the transgender community that Kelly has.

    • Anonymous

      There’s no sentence in the history of language that would make @misskellyo ‘s context of “chick with a dick” ok. NONE. It is a SLUR. Ask @glaad.

      • Shazisraz

        No, it is NOT a ‘slur’.  Thats how you CHOOSE to take it.  Your ‘opinion’ does not become ‘fact’.  I am a chick who had a dick, and I see it as plain fucking English.  Not pcerist gobbledegook.  And how I choose to see or describe myself, my own identity, is my business.  You have no right ascribing a negative slant on something that I and others choose as a definition of us.  It is NOT a slur.  What is a slur, are intolerant pseudo-intellectuals like yourself out to make a name for yourself and cause friction and my and others expense.  Grow up and get real.

        • Anonymous

          If you want to dehumanize yourself, be my guest. If you want to make your genitals be who you identify yourself as, be my guest. You can be a n Osbourne fan girl, be my guest.  I’m for trans women to be seen and treated and RESPECTED for the women they are. Kelly was wrong and when it was pointed out to her she apologized. Apparently she, I, and most of the transactivist community can see she was wrong and that it WAS a slur. You apparently don’t know what a slur is. The dictionary defines it as “an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them or damage their reputation.” Osbourne stated it was worse than being dumped for an ugly girl. She wasn’t talking about it as if she was explaining what Elle was, she was saying it as if Elle were the scum of the earth and how dare her man leave her for something so beneath her.

  • At least Kelly didn’t call Elle Schneider a Circus Freak, lest she get invited to the board of a trans rights organization. 

    • Kat

      The week isn’t over yet.I’m sure she’ll be personally invited by May-gun Stay-bluh to join HRC – either as a board member or as part of one of its legendarily productive consulting entities. 

      Ah yes..I can see it now…

      Kelly Osbourne, chair of the HRC Task Force on Trans Issues as Understood by People No One Should Ever Have Heard of But For the Brainless State of the Corporatist-Media-Tenderized American Psyche.

      But will Snooki, Sanjaya, Justin Bieber and Kim Kardashian be able to take direction Kelly?!?!?!!?!?

      No worry – I’m sure Israel Luna will film the whole thing as a reality series…

      narrated by Dan Savage.

  • Kat

    Chicks with yadda, yadda. yadda…

    Pathetically untalented offspring of pathetic old brain-damaged rock stars who haven’t produced any music of note since Randy Rhoads drew his last breath…

    Six of one…